Opinion
Manasquan, NJ –-(Ammoland.com)- Remember all those who denied that firearms confiscation as a result of New York’s new gun laws was too “insane” to even consider?
That it was strictly in the realm of paranoid conspiracy theorists and the “it cant happen here crowd”?
Those were and remain some of the standard replies to anyone who even thought about the possibility, let alone gave voice to it, despite the fact that Gov Cuomo and numerous other officials made public comments about such a plan, as I discussed in my article “Feinstein & Cuomo Admit Planning Australian Style Government Gun Buy Back” .
Elected Officials, the media, various Gun Control Groups and their zealous forced disarmament supporters, even some firearms owners themselves all insisted it was to crazy to even consider.
There’s just one huge problem it is happening now in New York State!
It seems those that tried desperately to warn of such an insidious plot had hit the bullseye with their warnings after all. News came from multiple NY State based firearms enthusiast websites late Friday that confiscations of Pistol Owner ID Cards, as well as firearms and accessories has commenced in NY under the provisions of the horribly flawed, draconian and blatantly unconstitutional NY SAFE Act.
Those folks having their weapons and FID cards confiscated  have been discovered to have been prescribed multiple different types of psychotropic drugs, such as those for Depression or Anxiety. These are known as SSRI ( Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) class drugs and have the potential to cause serious and adverse side effects, something I wrote about extensively last week in an article that went viral in days and caused multiple Anti Gun and Progressive News Groups to initiate a concentrated denial of service hacker attack against Ammoland Shooting Sports News (see Daily KOS ” Keeping Track Of The RKBA Crowd” https://tiny.cc/ug67uw),  in an effort to keep the information from the public.
From NYÂ https://tiny.cc/nyfirearms
“John Doe, an upstanding professional with no outstanding criminal convictions and no history of violent action received a letter from the Pistol Permit Department informing him that his license was immediately revoked upon information that he was seeing a therapist for anxiety and had been prescribed an anxiety drug. He was never suicidal, never violent, and has no criminal history. The New York State Department of Health is apparently conducting a search of medical records to determine who is being treated for anxiety drugs and using this as a basis for handgun license revocation.
Those are the facts. Nothing more, nothing less.
Now, before anyone trots out the old saw about how this is nothing more then a paranoid, unsubstantiated rumor on a “gun nuts” internet forum. I spoke to the Attorney of Record in this matter on the phone this morning and he confirmed that the above snippet is accurate and these cases are happening!
James Tresmond Esq confirmed in our conversation that the above mentioned case is occurring in Erie County NY, it is his client that has been effected, and as yet unknown sources have seen fit to take it upon themselves to share confidential medical records with NY State Officials without authorization, a massive HIPPA violation.
It seems these supposedly confidential records are then compared against a list of known NY pistol license holders and letters are sent out demanding their Pistol Owner ID Cards be surrendered, as well as any firearms and accessories.
Here is a link to the Attorney of Record on this case, Jim Tresmond, giving a radio interview on the Tom Bauerle Show on WBEN 930AM/107.7 FM:
https://www.wben.com/topic/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=6319907
This is an unprecedented violation of a Citizens 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendment RIGHTS, brought to fruition by power and control hungry tyrants holding elected office who swore an Oath to uphold and defend the very rights they are now actively stripping from their constituents.
Moreover, the confiscation efforts underway in NY State have had another, albeit unintended effect. By undertaking this course of action, those in power have inadvertently pulled back the curtain on something they have suppressed from the Citizens for far to long, leaving them with precious little wiggle room to explain away their actions.
- Either they are acknowledging that there is in fact some sort of little reported link between the prescribing of psychotropic drugs and violent behavior, thus they are somehow, at least in their own minds “justified” in their actions to preempt someone from violence.
- Or, this is nothing more then a backdoor confiscation effort and massive abuse of governmental power unleashed on innocent Citizens.
Those are the only two possible explanations.
If anyone still feels some level of doubt regarding the veracity of this story, Attorney Tresmond welcomes anyone to visit his website tresmondlaw.com, Facebook page ( https://www.facebook.com/james.tresmond.7 ), or send an email to [email protected].
Mr Tresmond asks that those making inquiries be mindful and respectful of the fact that they have been deluged with inquiries in recent days and therefore a personal reply may be delayed or impossible due to the volume.
More articles, commentary and information by D. Roberts available at That Every Man Be Armed.com
Stay informed about U. S. Changing Gun Laws:
- The Traveler’s Guide to the Firearm Laws of the Fifty States
- Gun Laws Of America
- New York Secure Firearms and Ammunition Enforcement (SAFE) Act of 2013
I know I will be flamed for this but………. do we really want people on psychoactive drugs handling weapons?
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@Johny, You misunderstand the American justice system. The first principle is freedom to act right up to breaking the law. If one is prescribed medication and does not break the law, then there is no reason to diminish any of their civil Rights. Isn’t the purpose of medically prescribed psychoactive drugs to make the patent think and act normally? Why would you deny people their civil Rights if they think and act normally? It is not really a matter of what “we want”. The decision maker will be some government bureaucrat, and that governmental employee can turn governmental power on… Read more »
1. The Second Amendment: Does not described of what type of Firearms you can have Just say is Firearms in general of all Firearms is in clouded too . I agree! The New York State Should Limit ate the Hand Gun Firearms I.D Card issued by the New York State Police of the new York too> Just Used your Driver State, Driver License to buy all Hand Guns too! Do you agree Sir Or Mam too! Let”s limited paper work too! I do also agree! And Better instant Check back round for Gun Buying Customer with clean Record too, Squeakily… Read more »
this world has justm flat come to sh** the violence our people against each other killing one another if I had a firearm id be dammned to give up my only protection against the crazed sh*t in this world today why cant people get along this is whats ending us all this crap and it steadily worsens instead of somebody doing something about it they make it worse by threatening to take firearms or bringing up slavery anything to get any violence started u people r ready god bless and may god forgive us all its going to come down… Read more »
As an infantrymen in the army, I would never fire at any us citizen for refusing to turn in their weapons. In fact if such as order was given I would probably question the legitimacy of the us government and I would protect the constitution and the people from anyone trying to harm them.
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Unless the oath has changed since I was in the Navy, the first words are: “I do solemnly swear to defend the Constitution of the United States against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC!” An oath is for life. No one can relieve me of that oath even if I wanted them to, it stands sacred till I die. I hope to God that our military has learned from Katrina, the Constitution comes first. Do NOT follow unlawful orders even if it were to mean desertion or mutiny. If the order is ever given to fire on American Citizens defending their… Read more »
It’s really crazy to me that they can do that. They purchased the firearms legally and now they are basically being stolen from by the government. I hope this never happens where I live in Texas. If it does then it is proof that we don’t live in a free country anymore.
I’m from NY and the confiscation as cited by lawyer Tresmond is true and real. Others in the free states take note, it CAN happen to you. Many here doubted our representatives would sell us out, and then they did just that. Those who back the 2A will not forget come election time… for years to come.
William S. Guerrera
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Simple, Clear, Helpful
There are quite of few “americans” who travel from this country to go to Yemen, or Iraq, or Syria, etc to train as Jihadis and then come back to this country using their passports. We know who they are, we know where they were, and we know what they were doing, but we can’t arrest them because you can’t take someones rights away because they MIGHT do something. But it seems NY State can do that.
Well I’ll be doggone, those pro-rights law-abiding firearm owners were right! I guess when lists are made they can and will be used to confiscate firearms from the American citizen.
Thank-you for this confiscation. We now have objective proof to destroy the anti-gun liars.
i beleive i read an article on gunowners .org that several anti gun incumbents were ousted in the NY legislature.
Firearms that you legally purchased and own, your personal property, and you’re being mandated to surrender them? If that’s not confiscation, what is?
Do the numbers of gun confiscation. https://jpfo.org/pdf02/genocide-chart.pdf
Read the truth of Gun Facts: https://jpfo.org/pdf03/gun-facts-6-2-screen.pdf
SO, Let me repeat what they are saying. The Servants (yours slaves) of the People which are all of you; Give us your guns or we will use our guns you said we may carry to take your gun because it will make us feel safe from you. Yet every gun crime is in the commission of someone with a gun in a gun free zone. And lest you remember that the King of England sent men with guns to take the guns of the People in the New Colonies; aka the founding fathers of these united States of America.… Read more »
This is why, EXACTLY WHY, they’ve been pushing their PTSD scheme so heavily. Pumping our returning Veterans with drugs before they even step foot back on our soil. I’ve been screaming about it for years. PTSD is real. I get that. But they are using it to label as many Veterans as possible so they can disarm them. “Want more benefits/money? Here. sign this document saying you have PTSD and we will pay you more.” It’s a nightmare that is rapidly becoming reality. People had better start paying attention and taking this seriously. If they want to take our guns… Read more »
When referring to the U.S. why do articles on ammoland prefer the word “governmental” rather than “government”? The former seems to be overly heavy and obtuse, while the latter is commonplace and easier to read.
Too late! Obozo-care, defines “Oppositional Defiant Disorder”(ODD)as a mental illness exhibited by people who have show disobedience and defiance to authority! DSM-4r states “This includes adults who exemplify “paranoia ideation” about the govt and frequently express these delusional ideation on the internet”. What we are doing here, is by definition, reason to have confiscation actions taken!
They want to make this Nation Wide!
The 2nd amendment says that American citizens have the right to keep and bear arms, and that right SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED UPON! If a mass confiscation is going on in places like NYC and Chicago, then the same is destined to happen all over the USA, and this is a PRECURSOR to some action against the people that the systemic elites know the people will not tolerate…Our history very strongly suggests that the corporations will soon send all US citizens into slave labor camps! Look at the thirteenth amendment very closely…Slavery WAS NOT outlawed!!!The legal right to own slaves… Read more »
New York Times has an article titled “War Gear Flows to Police Departments” June 8th 2014, but its a pay to view.
If you search for “War Gear Flows to Police Departments” You’ll find related articles.
They need this military stuff when they come for our guns!
The only two people I that I knew personally who were seeing a therapist, were active LEO. There are lots of people who take Xanax, an anti-anxiety medication, to help them sleep, reduce stress, while mourning the death of a loved one, deal with particular fears, etc.. Xanax is one of the most prescribed drugs on the market. Many also take it when they fly on an airplane, give a speech, etc.. If anything, anti anxiety medication calms people down. I think what NY is doing is going to reduce the number of people who seek mental help and that… Read more »
This is why I would never live there nor ask permission from any authority to own, carry and use if necessary.
To JP and Reality Check. We the people of NYS have filed a class action suit from day one against this unconstitutional gun grab. We are fighting this every single day. Reality check if you think we are all nuts and need to have our guns taken away. I will watch the DHS goon squad march you into a Cattle car o your way to a lovely FEMA camp. rom a very long distance that is as I will choose liberty and freedom over Tyranny
The reports from mental health providers will be cross refrenced with pistol permit holders and those who have REGISTERED ASSAULT WEAPONS.
This is the New MHL 9.46 enacted 3/12/2013.
Be aware
Is there a moderator in the house? TWO anti-Semitic comments here will be quoted elsewhere to prove what wackjobs ALL of us are. Leave the Jews out of it.
Tucker: Agreed, the way they treat us vets anymore, I would never tell a soldier to go see a VA shrink. Unless you just want to lose your rights with nothing good coming from it either. RedHawg: I once took an SSRI med that was off label prescribed for insomnia, I got terrifying nightmare that night, and can see why people on them go nuts. I quit instantly. I personally have used a gun for self defense in country, though I did not have to pull the trigger as the gun itself was enough to stop the problem. It happens… Read more »
I do not know anyone that has used a gun against another human being except in war and i am 65 and a vet and I live in gun country. Vets I know throw the ssri meds in the commode. They know what those drugs will do to their minds and they refuse to take them.
A note to all active duty military people. No matter how much ‘stress’ you guys feel like you are under, after our lying, greasy, stinking, filthy neo-con war mongering war criminals managed to lie the US military into fighting this phony global war on terror – I recommend that every one of you guys be very, very careful about going to see some military shrink and then spilling your guts about your stress & anxiety issues. These rats are documenting your every word and those notations become a permanent part of your medical record. They’ll also try to put you… Read more »
Time for the 2nd American REvolution to start.
Its long over due to shoot the bastards.
Why is it most bible thumpers are uneducated, probably about their own book. Evildores; I assume Evildoers. ‘he will rep gods laws’ I assume you mean ‘reap’, unless your bible includes some odd version of the house of representatives in it. Please ammoland, go ahead and delete this comment and that of ‘moses’ above me, as if you will not delete idiot trolls, I am forced against my will to troll them back. 😉
PEOPLE GET ON YOUR KNEES REPENT OF YOUR EVIL TOO GOD THE FATHER BY HIS SON <HE WILL HEAL THIS LAND SEND ALL THE DEVILS EVILDORES INTO HELL. evil men who do evil in the name of gov are still doing evil they all will pay for there evil, what so ever a mans sows he will rep GODS LAW.
Welcome to ny- NAZI York
This political move is an SSRI. A Stupid Statist Re-election Inhibitor!
Don’t worry folks – this is just a federal test to see how people are going to react when the nation wide confiscation begins. If you beleive otherwise then give up your guns and see how well the government will take care of you.
Serious lack of any confidence in this government
l”ets get it together ppl on April 8, 2013 at 1:27 PM said:
what about LEO’s that are seeing shrinks and takeing meds for the s*%t they deal with?
No way those are the Government and they are fine, shooting a civilian not a problem the Government knows best.
Just move. New York will become the New Detroit, or maybe even like Chicago.
I lived in Mexico in 1973, when
Mexico made illegal to own firearms.
Look what happened 40 years later
(all bad people have guns and kill
good people.
NEVER give up your weapons….NEVER….imho
You missed an amendment there.
The 8th enumerates the rights of the people against cruel and unusual punishment.
Now, it may be a stretch, but taking away private property that was legally purchased without any form of fair market value compensation is, in my book at least, cruel and unusual punishment.
This an outrage I have a buddy a former soldier of mine he was my 240 gunner in Iraq he lives in the Bronx. He was also not born in America he Fought for his Citizenship two tours. And yes he and I have both been treated for anxiety, where he lives he would be arrested for only exercising his 2nd Amendmant rights. I live in the deep south and firearms are normal here but my buddy in the bronx doesn’t even get the chance to defend the one life GOD has given him????
They can kiss my ass. I will not submit. We all have to die someday. It may as well be for a cause, something you believe in. Bring it if you want some action! ~Craig Beaudry
They will never get mine.
They had fair warning that it would happen and they still allowed the state to write and pass this unconstitutional law that relies upon information illegally obtained by the state and local governments in order to take this action. Do NOT say it can not happen here because NY is just a glimpse of what the Federal government has planned. Keep in mind that this administration has shown time and time again that it has no hesitation about breaking laws or trampling on the Constitution.
they don’t care about mass shootings and suicides rates if they had common sense they would know that doing this to ppl that seek help will just prevent ppl in the future from stepping foward with issues leaving them un medicated and even more dangerous but still able to legally own guns
WILL NEVER SURRENDER MY ARMS TO NO DAMN ONE.
This story is two months old. Why are you putting it out now? To the best of my knowledge, the state police admit they made a mistake of identity. I still do not think the law is right and I sincerely hope it gets repealed. I just hate seeing old stories put out as being “news”.
@rwingr we published this story two months ago, why are you reading in now?
HIPAA does not apply to law enforcement: “To a law enforcement official reasonably able to prevent or lessen a serious and imminent threat to the health or safety of an individual or the public (45 CFR 164.512(j)(1)(i))” Administrative requests to pharmacies (i.e. a letter on official letterhead) is all it takes to get the names and addresses of people on certain medications. Why do you think there is a great push for computerized medical records? Wake up.
Think about how many times guns are used to stop somebody from hurting others in NYS. Now if all gun owners left that schitthole state, the know it all libs would be the only ones being preyed on plus other crooks would move there too. just rewards.
i think that ALL gun owners in NY State should get up and MOVE out of this state ASAP !!!
Anti-anxiety med’s are also used for other purposes that have nothing to do with one’s mental state, as they also relieve muscle spasms, and other medical problems. I don’t think a bad back is a good reason to take a persons firearms. Is it legal to take action against against someone because you think they might possibly do something? If my neighbor likes to get drunk, can I call the authorities and have his car taken away, because he might drive it and kill someone while he is under the influence? I think they would probably arrest me for abuse… Read more »
Because of job stress,there are many leos who have or are taking these “nerve drugs” prescribed by their doctor. There are records of who is taking what in the doctor’s records,in the pharmacies, and now probably somewhere in a central location in Albany. If They are going to go after the citizen and not Themselves…we have a real problem.